Hey John---birds of a feather

John and Kat,

Just saw two "bird of a feather" ratings for two doctors I watch. Both were posted the same day. What does that mean?

Was just going to post the

Was just going to post the same thing - what does it mean? What does it mean in term of the doc rating?

The "Birds of a Feather"

The "Birds of a Feather" rating (named after the old saying, "birds of a feather flock together") is based on the number of Medicare billings for the same patients that two doctors have in common within a month.

This data is sometimes called a referral dataset, but, more generally, the data is a teaming dataset, showing when providers work on the same patients within a given time frame. However, the teaming relationships are usually referrals.

Specifically, the data represents the number of times two providers billed Medicare for the same patient within a sliding 30-day window, where the doctors have at least 11 patients in common. Presumably, the higher the "birds of a feather" count, the stronger the teaming/referral relationship between two doctors.

That ratings, like birds,

That ratings, like birds, flock together?

IDK...looking into it. Probably won't say anything beyond this, but thanks for letting me know none-the-less. Even if it turns out to be nothing, I do appreciate it.

See gagal's post above for

See gagal's post above for the the description of what we're doing. We got our hands on a medicare database that gives referral information and we're testing out how to display the data. It is not visible on the site at the moment because it needs a few tweaks, but will be going up again soon.

John

Since it is relational data

Since it is relational data that the average patient won't understand or be able to interpret, why add data that will only serve to confuse people?

John, What I don't understand

John,

What I don't understand is why this data is impacting the ratings that patients give their doctors. I watch several doctors whose ratings have fallen from a perfect 5 to low 4s because of the new data.

I can't imagine the reduction

I can't imagine the reduction in scores is due to the new data. It unintelligible to even the most informed patient. I'm sure it is merely coincidental. That not withstanding, the inclusion of the data will reduce the user experience on RateMDs as it confusing.

No, there are no new ratings

No, there are no new ratings other than the birds of a feather. These particular two doctors have perfect 5s from their patients. It's the new rating that is not a 5.

Rockygirl, I've looked at

Rockygirl, I've looked at several accounts which had a birds of a feather rating and after tabulating their scores I saw no variation as a result of the new birds data. Please list which doctors you are referring to.

I don't list my doctors in

I don't list my doctors in public---I've made the administrators of the site aware.

Could you discontinue this

Could you discontinue this birds of a feather deal? I used to check my state and by date to see the recent rankings. Now since this has been posted, all I am seeing is this rating and not what people are reviewing.

I agree.

I agree.

rockygirl wrote: John, What I

rockygirl wrote:

John,

What I don't understand is why this data is impacting the ratings that patients give their doctors. I watch several doctors whose ratings have fallen from a perfect 5 to low 4s because of the new data.

It does affect their ratings. I am seeing a bunch that this is their only rating and it is dropping their numbers.

This new "birds of a feather"

This new "birds of a feather" rating is ridiculous. It affects the ratings of doctors who just may coincidentally have many of the same patients. I've seen it lower the rating of a doctor with a perfect 5.0 rating that was based on patient ratings. And I've seen it raise the rating of a doctor badly rated by patients.

There is a high probability that if you are an opthamologist in a relatively small city, you will likely have many of the same elderly patients as a local cardiologist, a local GP, etc. Just because you happen to have the same patients doesn't mean that you necessarily referred them to each other.

Please drop this absurd idea. The concept may have seemed good, but the practicality of it isn't.

I agree.

I agree.

Doesn't make any sense to

Doesn't make any sense to me....

I don't think I understand it.

I'm considering making an

I'm considering making an appointment with a Dr. Emery in Spokane. He has 2 reviews. One from a 65-year old on Medicare is 5 stars. The other from Birds of a Feather is 1.5 stars. That makes his total score 3.2. When I click on Birds of a feather, but I'm just guessing here, I think what they have done is compared his patient load from Rockwood Clinic with his patients at Family Practice??? Why does that lower his score so much??

I'm also in favor of dropping

I'm also in favor of dropping it. I looked back at the ratings of a urologist I saw who had ratings drop since I checked though has only 2 reviews. One of the reviews no longer shows up which is the worst thing about it, just indicates that it's a 'Birds of a Feather' ...

Really don't like this new 'feature' at all.

I was getting excited because

I was getting excited because I thought this birds of a feather stuff had stopped because the ones I was looking at haven't had this rating the last couple of days-they were actual reviews from individuals. Unfortunately, that's not true because they were back today-urrg! I love this site and have recommended it to people, but won't be recommending it any more if we are going to continue with this!

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