Colonoscopy Drugs

I read that when people get colonsocopies (in some areas) that the drug they receive doesn't actually put them to sleep but makes them simply forget about the pain of the procedure afterward -- that it's really just a hypnotic drug. Is this true?

This sounds like a drug

This sounds like a drug called "Versed". If that's the case, it seems to be the experience of many a patient.

Pain experienced in one moment can be experienced again through memory in the next moment, effectively making it cumulative.

Prolly 70% of the time,

Prolly 70% of the time, colonoscopy is done under conscious sedation. That is Versed (a hypnotic and sedative) along with an analgesic, usually Demerol of Fentanyl.

An increasing number of cases (about 30%)are using Monitored Anesthesia Care (MAC) which is usually Propofol. Yes, the MJ drug. This does not necessitate intubation and mechanical ventillation, as general anesthesia would, but does require an Anesthesiologist. This is used in cases of obese patients, or patients with expected complications or a high tolerance for narcotic analgesia.

While I have heard of people (rare) requesting no sedation or anesthesia, these are only about 1%.

You should find out from your GI doctor what he plans for your anesthesia, and if ever you have been treated for chronic pain, he should know that, as you would be better off with Propofol.

Good luck

Actually I was unconscious

Actually I was unconscious (to my knowledge) because I had a super spastic colon (as well as with most other muscles) on a previous test which was difficult to complete. So I was probably screaming all the way through it then and just couldn't remember anything afterward? Actually most people I know who had it weren't aware of what went on. The hypnotic drug ALSO would cause many people to not remember, would it -- otherwise why would it be given?

heartthrob wrote: While I

heartthrob wrote:

While I have heard of people (rare) requesting no sedation or anesthesia, these are only about 1%.

We are more than 1%

My wife says I have no feelings

heartthrob wrote: Prolly 70%

heartthrob wrote:

Prolly 70% of the time, colonoscopy is done under conscious sedation. That is Versed (a hypnotic and sedative) along with an analgesic, usually Demerol of Fentanyl.

An increasing number of cases (about 30%)are using Monitored Anesthesia Care (MAC) which is usually Propofol. Yes, the MJ drug. This does not necessitate intubation and mechanical ventillation, as general anesthesia would, but does require an Anesthesiologist. This is used in cases of obese patients, or patients with expected complications or a high tolerance for narcotic analgesia.

While I have heard of people (rare) requesting no sedation or anesthesia, these are only about 1%.

You should find out from your GI doctor what he plans for your anesthesia, and if ever you have been treated for chronic pain, he should know that, as you would be better off with Propofol.

Good luck

I already went through that some time ago but thanks for the luck wish, heartthrob.

I didn't have IV as far as I was able to see before going in -- only the needle in the vein. It seemed to take a couple of hours (unless I slept for half an hour afterward). I guess they knew before I went in that the sigmoid test prior to that had taken about 1.5 hours because every 10 seconds they had to stop to wait until the spasms quit. They then tried to book me for a barium enema but I pleaded like someone about to be hung to avoid that. No way did I want to be part of a joke in the face for doctors who would do this, because there would be no way I could keep that balloon in with such huge spasms.

As I was being wheeled in there, holding my eyes wide shut as hard as I could, the whole experience made me think of the numerous military experiments done at hospitals. Was the military paying them to practice on me to which drugs were the cheapest and most effective to see how how much torture prisoners could endure and then not remember afterward? What if it was en experiment to see if they could extract the closet parts of my life and then not recall afterward?

I had heard so many old folks talk about their diverticulosis. How on earth did they get that? If I survived this and found out they had only stretched my colon and not perforated my colon would I be happy? Could people get diverticulosis from that?

Still trying with all my might to fight off sleep at first, I then saw it -- the scary machine called a TV set. Was my butt, as well as my torture going to be watched by a whole team of military officials from the other side -- or at least a whole classroom -- maybe in 3D on a 50 inch screen?
That was when I remembered that seeing a video on You Tube about how, in one place in Scotland (if not all), they actually gave people paper shorts with a hole in it to protect their dignity. If they were too cheap to do that here, they could've sold me a pair at that point for 25 dollars -- maybe even 50. Guess they don't like to encourage the feeling of dignity here because too many people would come back.

They never did complete the colonoscopy, so maybe it was more painful than the sigmoidoscopy even. A couple of hours later they shook me out of my heavenly state of bliss. I was totally exhausted and wanted to stay for the whole afternoon. Was the exhaustion from screaming all the way through? A few minutes later I felt wonderful. I wanted to smile and kiss and hug everyone. I felt wide awake. What a wonderful heavenly experience. Had a great gastroenterologist and no, I never did end up with diverticulosis.

You should try it sometime, Twain. If your wife thinks you have no feelings, you might be twice as likely as I to hug and kiss people after you wake up. Just make sure to limit those kisses to your wife or she will be convinced of that forever.

Twain wrote: heartthrob

Twain wrote:
heartthrob wrote:

While I have heard of people (rare) requesting no sedation or anesthesia, these are only about 1%.

We are more than 1%

My wife says I have no feelings

You and Harry Smith!!!!!

There rare occasions that I approve of Versatile sedative, and colonoscopy is one such.

It's good to see you here Twain.

It sounds like you were

It sounds like you were sedated, Rtrp9. Funny what things we remember.

I'm not sure if it's the sedation or analgesia that makes some of us feel amorous, but I suspect that it's the analgesic. It happens to me also. Very embarrassing.

The Worse Part Of A

The Worse Part Of A Colonoscopy is
not the procedure, but the prep with
either the liquid laxative which I
heard tastes so terrible that you
can gag on it. I've heard about a
laxative pill that some give you and
make sure you're near a bathroom for
a total clean out of your colon to
prep it for the colonoscopy on the
following day.

I'm currently seeking an alternative
for the prep. Would like to do a
relaxing one hour colonic for the
prep before having the colonoscopy
and would like to be sedated so
when I wake up, I don't know what
happened.

Anybody onboard do a colonic colonoscopy
prep.

jimwel wrote: . Anybody

jimwel wrote:

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Anybody onboard do a colonic colonoscopy
prep.

I hadn't heard of a colonic colonoscopy prep, but it sounds soothing. Smiling

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeWjxHspRKs

jimwel wrote: The Worse Part

jimwel wrote:

The Worse Part Of A Colonoscopy is not the procedure, but the prep with either the liquid laxative which I heard tastes so terrible that you can gag on it.

This sounds like liquid "X-Prep", which contains senna as the active ingredient. I had to take it on two occasions in preparation for lower GIs. It was jet black in colour and had the consistency of molasses. It was one of the foulest smelling preparations I have ever had the displeasure of having to use.

On the second occasion, I took the advice of a nurse and stuffed cotton up both my nostrils. As the majority of our sense of taste comes from our sense of smell, this helped immensely.

gagal wrote: jimwel

gagal wrote:
jimwel wrote:

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Anybody onboard do a colonic colonoscopy
prep.

I hadn't heard of a colonic colonoscopy prep, but it sounds soothing. Smiling

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeWjxHspRKs

It's not only soothing, but also relaxing from the online
research I've done. There are some Gastroenterolgists that
have the colonic equipment in their offices. I would think
it would be alot better then the laxative the day before
the colonoscopy. I'll know if this is acceptable when
I approach the doctor about this alternative.

It depends upon the doctor.

It depends upon the doctor. Some doctors put the person to sleep others give locals. I have to have colonscopies because my dad died 29 years ago of colon cancer, so I am high risk.

The procedure is not bad, the preparation is not great. The day before the procedure you have to clean out your colon by fasting and drinking a solution they give you. This solution makes you go to the bathroom a lot. So I suggest you stay home to be near the bathroom.

I just felt a little woozy after the procedure.

ALSO THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO PAIN DURING OR AFTER THE PROCEDURE. IT IS PAINLESS. BUT IF IT WERE PAINFUL (WHICH IT ISNT) IT IS WORTH IT. I RATHER HAVE PAIN THEN DIE OF COLON CANCER LIKE MY DAD DID.

The doctors do NOT give you

The doctors do NOT give you hypnotic drugs. I dont know where you got this idea. All they do is give you a medication to make you sleep thru the procedure - plain and simple. And no you cannot scream during the procedure you are sleeping.

You sound very young otherwise you would not write what you are writing. You are not aware of what is going on during the procedure because you are sleeping thru the procedure.

The solution does not taste

The solution does not taste bad. And no you have to drink the entire solution, otherwise you are wasting your time. You cannot do a one hour before because this will not clear out your colon. You need to clean it out totally by drinking the entire solution and fasting.

The reason the doctors want your colon cleaned totally is this way they can see everything that is going on in your colon. Not one drop of waste can be in your colon.

lover454 wrote: The doctors

lover454 wrote:

The doctors do NOT give you hypnotic drugs. I dont know where you got this idea. All they do is give you a medication to make you sleep thru the procedure - plain and simple

What do you think a "hypnotic drug" is?

It is "a medication to make you sleep"

lover454 wrote: The doctors

lover454 wrote:

The doctors do NOT give you hypnotic drugs. I dont know where you got this idea. All they do is give you a medication to make you sleep thru the procedure - plain and simple. And no you cannot scream during the procedure you are sleeping.

You sound very young otherwise you would not write what you are writing. You are not aware of what is going on during the procedure because you are sleeping thru the procedure.

Doctors employ a variety of agents to induce sedation in colonoscopy patients. These can include midazolam (Dormicum,Hypnovel,and Versed) a drug used for treatment of acute seizures, moderate to severe insomnia, and for inducing sedation and amnesia before medical procedures. It possesses profoundly potent anxiolytic, amnestic, hypnotic, anticonvulsant, skeletal muscle relaxant, and sedative properties. They may also employ fentanyl or meperedine (Demerol) an opioid agonist which, at low doses, has sedative properties. Some practitioners will use nitrous oxide or propofol. (Summarized from Wikipedia's entries on "Colonoscopy|Investigation" and "Midazolam".

As to heartthrob's comment referring to Versed as a hypnotic, I wouldn't have a clue, either, where she got that idea in her twenty-five plus years of nursing. Smiling

heartthrob wrote: Twain

heartthrob wrote:
Twain wrote:
heartthrob wrote:

While I have heard of people (rare) requesting no sedation or anesthesia, these are only about 1%.

We are more than 1%

My wife says I have no feelings

You and Harry Smith!!!!!

There rare occasions that I approve of Versatile sedative, and colonoscopy is one such.

It's good to see you here Twain.

And me!!!

And it's good to see Twain and Heartthrob!

rockygirl wrote: heartthrob

rockygirl wrote:
heartthrob wrote:
Twain wrote:
heartthrob wrote:

While I have heard of people (rare) requesting no sedation or anesthesia, these are only about 1%.

We are more than 1%

My wife says I have no feelings

You and Harry Smith!!!!!

There rare occasions that I approve of Versatile sedative, and colonoscopy is one such.

It's good to see you here Twain.

And me!!!

And it's good to see Twain and Heartthrob!

Thank you RG, I meant not to say Hypnotic (did I really say that?) I meant amnesic. It will make you not remember a thing, whether you felt pain or not, you will not remember it..................which is good for me.

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