Authority issues health alert over practice of rogue Vancouver area dentist

Authority Issues Health Alert Over Practice of Rogue Burnaby Dentist

METRO VANCOUVER - Fraser Health is urging patients of an illegal dentist to get tested for infectious viruses such as HIV and hepatitis B or C after being exposed to unsterilized equipment.

Tung Sheng Wu, also known as David Wu, 62, operated an underground dental practice out of a home on the 4300-block of Burnaby’s Southwood Street for the past 10 years without a licence or any known training, according to the health authority.

He also used equipment that was not cleaned or sterilized to meet Health Canada infection-control standards.

Investigators believe he may have been practising dentistry illegally as far back as the 1990s.

Full Article:
http://www.vancouversun.com/health/Authority+issues+health+alert+over+practice+rogue+Burnaby/8759400/story.html

There’s a clearer picture of

There’s a clearer picture of the working conditions inside David “Tung Sheng” Wu’s illegal dental clinic that was shutdown in Burnaby.

The fraudulent dentist is still on the run but a video of the raid on his home-based clinic shows the size of his operation. According to authorities, there’s little evidence of Wu properly sterilizing his equipment.

RCMP, the College of Dental Surgeons and its private investigators, Focus Solutions, raided the home office of Wu at the end of May. In his office, which was a converted bedroom, investigators found a dentist chair, equipment and an old autoclave sterilizer.

The college says they have no records of required testing to ensure instruments and materials are properly sterilized which makes them skeptical of the level of hygiene. They have seized Wu’s drills, equipment and supplies as evidence.

The Fraser Health Authority says all 1,500 of Wu’s patients need to be treated for Hepatitis B and C as well as HIV. Wu was banned from practicing dentistry in 2003.

Wu will be facing a contempt citation in BC Supreme Court on Monday, which could be a fine or jail time.

Video of search warrant being executed on Wu's premises, while Wu claims he cannot read them:

http://globalnews.ca/news/772883/a-look-inside-david-wus-illegal-dental-clinic

I’m just playing the devils

I’m just playing the devils advocate here, but it doesn’t sound like anyone has actually contracted Hep B, C, or HIV as far as they know.

The first article says he used equipment that was not sterilized, the second article says he probably didn’t use properly sterilized equipment; they are skeptical. I would be skeptical too, and it’s a good thing they shut him down, but is the college going to assure those 1500 patients receive proper dental care?

I doubt he was getting rich at least it didn’t appear so from his office. I mean seriously did you see the chairs in his waiting room? Smiling

gagal wrote: I’m just playing

gagal wrote:

I’m just playing the devils advocate here, but it doesn’t sound like anyone has actually contracted Hep B, C, or HIV as far as they know.

The first article says he used equipment that was not sterilized, the second article says he probably didn’t use properly sterilized equipment; they are skeptical. I would be skeptical too, and it’s a good thing they shut him down, but is the college going to assure those 1500 patients receive proper dental care?

I doubt he was getting rich at least it didn’t appear so from his office. I mean seriously did you see the chairs in his waiting room? Smiling

All 1500 identified clients have been sent for testing and treatment for Hepatitis. A definitive test for HIV can take time.

Instruments are either sterilized or they're not. They found instruments in an older model autoclave which had no evidence of having been maintained or tested. Instruments were found hanging to dry on the wall.

No, the dental college is not going to assure anyone of dental care. First, the dental college is a licensing authority, not a services provider. Secondly, this does not involve a real dentist, a member of the profession, or a member of the College. It's effectively a police operation, with the college as complainant.

This was the second time they shut him down. He was under a court order to not engage in dentistry, the breach of which gave them immediate grounds for the search warrant without necessitating an independent citizen complaint .

I think he was may have been making good money. He was catering to Vancouver's Chinese community, taking cash. Without credentials, he would not been enrolled in any insurance plans. I think the fold up chairs were simply part of deterring people from arriving too early for their appointment - his treatment room was in a rear bedroom, relatively out of sight, low key.

His first appearance before the courts (~2003?) involved charges of practising while unqualified, suggesting he had simply failed to meet licensing requirements. I think this time he'll be charged with breaching a court order, practising dentistry without a license, endangering the public, etc., and perhaps even obstruction. Notices regarding him have appeared on the various college websites in other provinces.

Meanwhile the licensed

Meanwhile the licensed dentist that butchered my mouth continues to practice while the dental college is doing their "investigation" which now has been going on for over a year!

There’s now evidence that Wu,

There’s now evidence that Wu, 62, who operated as an unlicensed dentist in Burnaby since at least 2003, is trying to flee Canada. The B.C. College of Dental Surgeons says it located a minivan filled with Wu’s personal belongings that was being shipped out of the country.

The college went to court Monday seeking a wide range of penalties against Wu, including a permanent ban on acting as a dentist, as well as a criminal contempt citation and his arrest. College lawyer Brent Olthuis told Associate Chief Justice Austin Cullen the college is seeking a considerable jail term for the man, who they say amassed a clientele of more than 1,200 patients before he was shut down.

Full Article: http://www.vancouversun.com/health/Permanent+injunction+bench+warrant+issued+Burnaby+rogue/8779403/story.html

The only reason the Dental

The only reason the Dental College is in such hot pursuit of this guy is because he cut into the profits of their members. I know from firsthand experience that the College could care less about patients. If this guy had a license he probably would've only gotten a warning letter approximately 2 years after the complaint was launched.

Jonny73 wrote: The only

Jonny73 wrote:

The only reason the Dental College is in such hot pursuit of this guy is because he cut into the profits of their members. I know from firsthand experience that the College could care less about patients. If this guy had a license he probably would've only gotten a warning letter approximately 2 years after the complaint was launched.

What do you think about that Katherine?

Are there other "rogues"?

http://www.coptont.org/LEGALUPDATES/default.asp

Do the Colleges want to protect patients or money?

Jonny73 wrote: The only

Jonny73 wrote:

The only reason the Dental College is in such hot pursuit of this guy is because he cut into the profits of their members. I know from firsthand experience that the College could care less about patients. If this guy had a license he probably would've only gotten a warning letter approximately 2 years after the complaint was launched.

What a nonsensical statement. Of course the College would go after anyone without a license. That's simply part of their duty in protecting the public. For all their shortcomings, medical and dental colleges do do some good.

I can imagine had the College ignored his practising, you'd be saying that they wouldn't want to chase him, lest they draw negative attention to the profession.

wishandaprayer

wishandaprayer wrote:
Jonny73 wrote:

The only reason the Dental College is in such hot pursuit of this guy is because he cut into the profits of their members. I know from firsthand experience that the College could care less about patients. If this guy had a license he probably would've only gotten a warning letter approximately 2 years after the complaint was launched.

What do you think about that Katherine?

Are there other "rogues"?

http://www.coptont.org/LEGALUPDATES/default.asp

Do the Colleges want to protect patients or money?

Wha? Why are you bringing me into this?

Katherine

Katherine wrote:
wishandaprayer wrote:
Jonny73 wrote:

The only reason the Dental College is in such hot pursuit of this guy is because he cut into the profits of their members. I know from firsthand experience that the College could care less about patients. If this guy had a license he probably would've only gotten a warning letter approximately 2 years after the complaint was launched.

What do you think about that Katherine?

Are there other "rogues"?

http://www.coptont.org/LEGALUPDATES/default.asp

Do the Colleges want to protect patients or money?

Wha? Why are you bringing me into this?

Because "its hard to explain" but I have an overwhelming "sadness and loss and confusion that borders on despondency" when I think of organizations which I see as "rogue" organizations.

I feel this despondency because of "learned helplessness" perhaps.

But you don't see what I see - you only want to see the superficial, which is what the organizations only want to see. There is so much more to see.

But you are a very good person Kat. You are insightful, and helpful - and regardless of what you think of me, I think of highly of you.

Just as I had thought very highly of doctors and the organizations which supported them.

I still think very highly of doctors, and I think highly of the way the CPSO and CMPA supports doctors who need support, but the overwhelming despondency is related to the fact that patients need support and are left unsupported - and so many people are blind to that fact - but I am not blind to that fact.

Are you Kat? Puzzled

What's the big

What's the big deal?

Canadians also often see doctors who are not listed anywhere on a specialist's list or College of Physicians and Surgeon's list and in fact the only lists they are on are lists that say they cannot practice in their professions. So -- in this case it's a dentist instead of a doctor. Should they clamp down harder on dentists than they do on doctors? Anything goes these days -- anything.

If you want good medical service, seek the advice of a veterinarian.

Rtrp9 wrote: What's the big

Rtrp9 wrote:

What's the big deal?

Canadians also often see doctors who are not listed anywhere on a specialist's list or College of Physicians and Surgeon's list and in fact the only lists they are on are lists that say they cannot practice in their professions. So -- in this case it's a dentist instead of a doctor. Should they clamp down harder on dentists than they do on doctors? Anything goes these days -- anything.

If you want good medical service, seek the advice of a veterinarian.

What doctors do Canadians see who are not members in good standing of a College?

That issue is being addressed

That issue is being addressed at a deeper level at the moment.

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