Would you like to be able to rate your dental hygienist or your independent dental hygienist on ratemds.com ?

Hi all,

I just wanted to say hey and to ask for your opinion on this topic.
You see your dental hygienist for what, 2-3-4 times per year for one hour or more each time, you see a dentist for what, 2 minutes per year if you have no dental issues.

Do you like your dental hygienist? Tough love I know, but it's good for you ... keeps your dental repair costs low and keeps you healthier in general.
Did you know that you can rate your nurse practitioner, your physiotherapist, your midwife, and other professions on this site that are not doctors?

If you think that dental hygienists should be added as a category to this site, please reply YES to this post.

Thanks

**addendum**

Top 10 Things to Know About Your Dental Hygienist

1. 1. Highly Educated Professionals -- The minimum level of education for licensure is equivalent to a four-year degree with two years specializing in dental hygiene.

2. 2. Committed to Expanding Access to Care-- Specially licensed hygienists can go into underserved communities and provide dental hygiene services to some of the millions of Americans who would otherwise have no access to dental care in certain states. However, some states limit this important access to care.

3. 3. Screen for Oral Cancer -- Dental hygienists possess the skills to be the first healthcare professional to identify potential signs of oral cancer and refer a patient to a physician.

4. 4. Promote Healthy Nutrition -- Dental hygienists can tell if a patient is eating poorly or is malnourished; they can then offer helpful advice and information.

5. 5. Spot Signs of Eating Disorders -- Also related to nutritional issues, eating disorders can also be recognized in the mouth during examination.

6. 6. Recognize Signs of Diabetes -- Dental hygienists can alert patients that they might be in danger from diabetes, and refer them to seek confirmation from a physician. Furthermore, dental hygienists are qualified to detect a wide range of other life-threatening conditions, including high blood pressure and HIV.

7. 7. Promote Tobacco Cessation -- When examining patients who use tobacco products, dental hygienists will counsel them to quit and provide resources and information about steps they can take to stop tobacco use.

8. 8. Prevent Periodontal (Gum) Disease -- By providing nonsurgical periodontal care and examining teeth and gums, dental hygienists play a major role in preventing common oral diseases and reducing the risk of many systemic diseases related to periodontal disease.

9. 9. Understand the Link Between Oral Health and Emotional Health in Children -- Dental hygienists are passionate about promoting good oral health among children, who can often suffer speech impediments, social ridicule, diminished self esteem and other problems related to poor oral health.

10. 10. Represented by ADHA, the Official Voice of Dental Hygiene -- Dental hygienists have been making continuous strides toward becoming the skilled, autonomous, and essential healthcare professionals that they are today (see above discussion).

* Courtesy of California Dental Hygienists' Association

Initially, I was going to say

Initially, I was going to say 'yes' but then I changed my mind. I realized that I like her too much...

She's not a doctor - and I

She's not a doctor - and I don't even know her name - so NO.

But she's very good, and patient with me. And she likes my teeth. Big smile

Did you know that you can

Did you know that you can rate your nurse practitioner, your physiotherapist, your midwife, and about 20 other professions on this site that are not doctors?

Dental hygiene wrote: Did you

Dental hygiene wrote:

Did you know that you can rate your nurse practitioner, your physiotherapist, your midwife, and about 20 other professions on this site that are not doctors?

I believe nurse practitioners and midwives are considered medical practitioners. I don't any section see where one can rate physiotherapists or non-medical practitioners.

Doesn't seem to stop the Swap

Doesn't seem to stop the Swap from lumping them in with docs, Mic.

My dental hygienist is very nice. I almost don't dread going to the dentist - almost.

Dental Hygiene defined:* •

Dental Hygiene defined:*

• Dental hygiene is a health profession involving theory and evidence-based
practice. Dental hygiene theory and practice draw on biomedical, social, and
behavioral sciences, and the body of dental hygiene knowledge. The
practice of dental hygiene involves collaboration with clients, other health
professionals, and society to achieve and maintain optimal oral health, an
integral part of well-being.

• A client is an individual, family, group, organization, or community
accessing the professional services of a dental hygienist. The term “client”
may also include the client’s advocate such as the parent of a young child.

• Dental hygienists are regulated primary oral health care professionals.

Key Responsibility Areas

The key responsibilities of dental hygienists are the following:

• Health promotion: The process of enabling people to increase their
awareness of, responsibility for, control over, and improvement of their
health and well-being.

• Education: The application of teaching and learning principles to facilitate
the development of specific attitudes, knowledge, skills, and behaviors.

• Clinical therapy: The primary, interceptive, therapeutic, preventive, and
ongoing care procedures that help to enable people to achieve optimal oral
health that contributes to overall health.

• Research: Strategies for systematic inquiry and reporting that supplement,
revise, and validate dental hygiene practice and that may contribute to the
knowledge base of other disciplines.

• Change agent: Taking a leadership role in managing the process of
change. This can involve getting things started (catalyst); offering ideas for
solving a problem (solution giver); helping individuals find and make the
best use of resources (resource link); and understanding the change
process (process helper). Acting as a change agent may also involve
advocacy—promoting and supporting clients’ rights and well-being.

• Administration: Management processes and policy and protocol
development.

The key responsibilities occur in varying degrees, depending on the nature of an
individual dental hygienist’s practice.

The privilege of practicing a health profession requires knowledge, ethics,
standards, and research, all of which acknowledge dental hygienists’ social
responsibility in the key areas of dental hygiene practice.

In fulfilling their responsibilities, dental hygienists
• embrace a personal ethic of social responsibility and service,
• work in a client-centred, relationship-centred way,
• continue to learn and help others learn.

* Adapted from The Canadian Dental Hygienists Association (cdha.ca).

Dental hygiene wrote: Did you

Dental hygiene wrote:

Did you know that you can rate your nurse practitioner, your physiotherapist, your midwife, and about 20 other professions on this site that are not doctors?

really??

can anyone verify this? john, is the true?

dental hygiene, can you please provide:

1) links or names (with respective professions)..of which you are referring to being ratable..

2) a list of these roughly "20 other professions" that are ratable on this site of whom are not doctors...

personally, in my opinion, if this is truely happening on this site, i would prefer to see separate categories developed for each individual profession...it is inappropriate for a site called "ratemds.com", to lump these "20 other professions" with physicians..

not to mention, again, at least in my opinion, and assuming the above is verified, looks as if the site wasnt willing to put in the time needed to make clear distinctions between such contrasting professions..

**addendum** i think we posted at the same time...you may have answered part of my questions...i guess i would just like some specific examples with links to each ratable profile..if that makes sense...thanks

Here is the link to the place

Here is the link to the place on ratemds.com where you can choose the medical professional specialty:

http://www.ratemds.com/AddDoctor.jsp

I did not count exactly, but there seem to be a few, less than 20, I modified my original message to reflect your correction...thank you kiddoc.

On an unrelated but

On an unrelated but interesting line of thought...

How coconut oil can prevent tooth decay...Naturally....

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/249804.php

Dental hygiene wrote: Here is

Dental hygiene wrote:

Here is the link to the place on ratemds.com where you can choose the medical professional specialty:

http://www.ratemds.com/AddDoctor.jsp

I did not count exactly, but there seem to be a few, less than 20, I modified my original message to reflect your correction...thank you kiddoc.

thank you dental hygiene...i stand educated....i tend not to navigate much thru the site other than where it involves me or my profile...but thank you again..

this is a problem...

1. the page is titles "ADD A DOCTOR OR DENTIST"..based on the options available via the scroll down under "specialty"...there are indeed non-doctor or dentist specialties...maybe it can be changed to include something like "ADD A MEDICAL PROFESSION/PROFESSIONAL"...or just make separate headings or pages to add those non-doctor or dentist" specialties listed that dont belong...(see below)

2. the following ARE NOT doctors or dentists and do not belong on/under an "add doctor or dentist" categorization:

-midwife
-nurse practitioner
-optometrist (maybe kinda sorta)
-psycologist

are the ones i noted..

also, i didnt see physician assistants, which would be comparable in my opinion, to nurse practitioners, which was listed as an option...

ill probably step back from here forward...i have a few other things on here where i need to focus my attention..

but thank you again dental hygiene..nice work..i hope this gets corrected.

kiddoc wrote: 1. the page is

kiddoc wrote:

1. the page is titles "ADD A DOCTOR OR DENTIST"..based on the options available via the scroll down under "specialty"...there are indeed non-doctor or dentist specialties...maybe it can be changed to include something like "ADD A MEDICAL PROFESSION/PROFESSIONAL"...or just make separate headings or pages to add those non-doctor or dentist" specialties listed that dont belong...(see below)

Good thinking!

I think it really depends on

I think it really depends on the purpose of this site which I believe is to find a good doctor or dentist.

I personally don’t choose a doctor based on his nurse or a dentist on his dental hygienist. So for that reason I don’t find it necessary to add nurses or dental hygienists to this site; although, it may be great for another site to include all of those who work in the medical field, maybe even candy strippers. Evil

I do believe individuals in the medical community who see patients in the capacity as a doctor should be included such as nurse practitioners, PA’s and midwives.

When I worked for a doctor his nurse practitioner was often the only one to see patients.

My son saw a physician’s assistant when he had problems with his knee and the guy was awesome. He literally saved my son from a future of potential serious problems.

I don’t have any experience with a midwife, but if I went that route I would definitely find it advantageous to have them rated here.

Notes about the nurse and dental hygienist could be included in the rating for the doctor or dentist.

Hi, Dental hygienists are

Hi,

Dental hygienists are practising independently of dentists these days and have been for the past decade or so. Some states and provinces that I am aware of like, Colorado and California (and other I am sure), in Canada; Ontario, Alberta, British Columbia, and almost all of the 12 provinces passed new regulations permitting dental hygienists to practice with varying degree of independence from dentists. There are 300+ clinics in Ontario alone, I do not have numbers for the rest. All I know is that it is growing. The winds of change...

I agree with your that it could happen in a different category than a doctor.

Dental hygiene

Dental hygiene wrote:

Hi,

Dental hygienists are practising independently of dentists these days and have been for the past decade or so.

I didn't know that.

I have had the same dentist and hygienist for the past 20 years. I love them both.

I guess I need to keep up with what is going on.

Thanks. Smiling

gagal wrote: ... it may be

gagal wrote:

... it may be great for another site to include all of those who work in the medical field, maybe even candy strippers. Evil

I'm speechless. Smiling Evil

gagal wrote: I didn't know

gagal wrote:

I didn't know that.

I have had the same dentist and hygienist for the past 20 years. I love them both.

I guess I need to keep up with what is going on.

Thanks. Smiling

Your correct, Dental Hygienists practising independent from Dentists is still not widely known.

Dental hygiene clinics are paving the way with a unique focus on prevention.
That is why I hope to get Dental Hygienists added to this site.
I would like to be able to find a professional with a good bedside manner,
current in new studies and research,
and somebody that listens, hears and supports my wants and needs.

How else do I find a diamond in the rough? ratemds.com.

MicOnTheNorthShore

MicOnTheNorthShore wrote:
gagal wrote:

... it may be great for another site to include all of those who work in the medical field, maybe even candy strippers. Evil

I'm speechless. Smiling Evil

So is Louis... Laughing out loud Evil

Out2Pasteur

Out2Pasteur wrote:
MicOnTheNorthShore wrote:
gagal wrote:

... it may be great for another site to include all of those who work in the medical field, maybe even candy strippers. Evil

I'm speechless. Smiling Evil

So is Louis... Laughing out loud Evil

I’m working on my spelling. Innocent

I doubt Mic is speechless. He’s more than likely frantically looking up those sites who rate Candy Strippers. Big smile

Dental hygiene wrote: gagal

Dental hygiene wrote:
gagal wrote:

I didn't know that.

I have had the same dentist and hygienist for the past 20 years. I love them both.

I guess I need to keep up with what is going on.

Thanks. Smiling

Your correct, Dental Hygienists practising independent from Dentists is still not widely known.

Dental hygiene clinics are paving the way with a unique focus on prevention.
That is why I hope to get Dental Hygienists added to this site.
I would like to be able to find a professional with a good bedside manner,
current in new studies and research,
and somebody that listens, hears and supports my wants and needs.

How else do I find a diamond in the rough? ratemds.com.

Dental Hygiene, what do you think of this article?

http://thewealthydentist.com/pr/094-dental-hygiene-clinics.htm

I find it very convenient to have my hygienist and dentist working hand in hand. They really seem to work as a team.

I can see independent dental hygienists having the ability to reach more people.

There is a tremendous need for poor children to get proper dental care in my area. The schools were getting involved by having students rinse with fluoride and having them brush at school after lunch. That has passed along the wayside possibly with the addition of fluoride to our water or the number of complaints by the community. Puzzled

I think it would be great to have a mobile dental service which goes around to the schools. In the same way they check students for vision and hearing they could check students’ teeth. I'm not sure of the logistics or funding for something like that, but there is definitely a need.

I had a 5 year old walk up to me on the playground crying. She opened her mouth, and I saw her tooth had a huge hole in it.

I still can't get that little girl out of my mind 15 years later. She did not speak English. I was told everyone was aware. Mom was going to take her to the dentist. I would be very surprised if that happened. I just wanted to scoop her up and drive her to my dentist. I have so many regrets not waiting around for her mother to see if I could help in some way. I know my dentist would have taken care of her. He is a great person. I'll never forget that little girl and how much pain she was in. Sad

“This paper presents business characteristics of ten experimental independent dental hygiene practices operating in California between 1987 and 1990.”

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9470554

gagal wrote: I can see

gagal wrote:

I can see independent dental hygienists having the ability to reach more people.

There is a tremendous need for poor children to get proper dental care in my area.

I agree with you completely!

Did you know? I was shocked to find out...
the number one reason for emergency room visits in the US and Canada is... By a large majority over heart trouble or accidents...

Dental disease gone out of control!

The need for different means of providing preventative care to increase public access is unquestioned. Many in the healthcare industry admit that we are not winning the war quickly enough by doing things as they have been done in the past.

The market for dental hygiene clinics is a reality that is growing by the forces of demand by the public. These clinics are not publicly funded, they are privately owned by dental hygienists (97.5% of them are women) that have one and only one focus...prevent oral disease from affecting people's health in general and avoiding tooth decay and gum disease in particular. The question of economic feasibility is proving itself by its success and growth.

The only reason I wrote in this forum was to have dental hygienists and independent dental hygienists rated by their clients so that perspective clients or unsatisfied clients can see who the best rated professionals out there are...

I used this site to find my general physician, and I am sure some people would appreciate the ability to find their dental hygienists through ratemds.

The issue of if dental hygienists should or should not operate without a dentist present is not the purpose or this forum topic (although it is an interesting conversation). The reality of it is that there are independent dental hygienists out there and people may want to find them through ratemds.

For those interested.... This

For those interested....

This is a scientific literature review investigating the need, demand and feasibility of independent dental hygiene...interesting....
Studies like this one are of reasons the Canadian Federal government, the provincial governments and some US state healthcare lawmakers made it legal for hygienists with advanced training to operate independently and in collaboration with dentists.

http://www.cdha.ca/pdfs/Career/volume35_4_page19.pdf

For what its worth, I know

For what its worth, I know John is seriously considering adding the Dental Hygienist specialty, but its not that simple of a task and he's kinda swamped at the moment.

I wouldn't be surprised if its on his to-do list though.

gagal wrote: Out2Pasteur

gagal wrote:
Out2Pasteur wrote:
MicOnTheNorthShore wrote:
gagal wrote:

... it may be great for another site to include all of those who work in the medical field, maybe even candy strippers. Evil

I'm speechless. Smiling Evil

So is Louis... Laughing out loud Evil

I’m working on my spelling. Innocent

I doubt Mic is speechless. He’s more than likely frantically looking up those sites who rate Candy Strippers. Big smile

Well, I was speechless. Gagal, you shocked me. Big smile

RateMyCandyStriper.com might have potential as a lucrative rating site. Even if it only had reviews numbering in the hundreds, there could be substantial traffic. Smiling Evil

The Whois database reports that CandyStripper.com is being cyber squatted, but I only found that out because of the stuck "p" on my keyboard. Honestly. Smiling

MicOnTheNorthShore

MicOnTheNorthShore wrote:
gagal wrote:
Out2Pasteur wrote:
MicOnTheNorthShore wrote:
gagal wrote:

... it may be great for another site to include all of those who work in the medical field, maybe even candy strippers. Evil

I'm speechless. Smiling Evil

So is Louis... Laughing out loud Evil

I’m working on my spelling. Innocent

I doubt Mic is speechless. He’s more than likely frantically looking up those sites who rate Candy Strippers. Big smile

Well, I was speechless. Gagal, you shocked me. Big smile

RateMyCandyStriper.com might have potential as a lucrative rating site. Even if it only had reviews numbering in the hundreds, there could be substantial traffic. Smiling Evil

The Whois database reports that CandyStripper.com is being cyber squatted, but I only found that out because of the stuck "p" on my keyboard. Honestly. Smiling

LMAO!!

Now stop hijacking.

Dental hygiene wrote: gagal

Dental hygiene wrote:
gagal wrote:

I can see independent dental hygienists having the ability to reach more people.

There is a tremendous need for poor children to get proper dental care in my area.

I agree with you completely!

Did you know? I was shocked to find out...
the number one reason for emergency room visits in the US and Canada is... By a large majority over heart trouble or accidents...

Dental disease gone out of control!

The need for different means of providing preventative care to increase public access is unquestioned. Many in the healthcare industry admit that we are not winning the war quickly enough by doing things as they have been done in the past.

The market for dental hygiene clinics is a reality that is growing by the forces of demand by the public. These clinics are not publicly funded, they are privately owned by dental hygienists (97.5% of them are women) that have one and only one focus...prevent oral disease from affecting people's health in general and avoiding tooth decay and gum disease in particular. The question of economic feasibility is proving itself by its success and growth.

The only reason I wrote in this forum was to have dental hygienists and independent dental hygienists rated by their clients so that perspective clients or unsatisfied clients can see who the best rated professionals out there are...

I used this site to find my general physician, and I am sure some people would appreciate the ability to find their dental hygienists through ratemds.

The issue of if dental hygienists should or should not operate without a dentist present is not the purpose or this forum topic (although it is an interesting conversation). The reality of it is that there are independent dental hygienists out there and people may want to find them through ratemds.

The article I wanted your opinion on discussed independent dental hygienist clinics as a viable business model.

Not surprisingly dentists find them not to be at least in 2008.

If that is true then I could see where rating them on this site might be good advertisement to increase business, to get the word out so to speak. So in that sense I found it relevant to the topic.

I can tell you those with the greatest need in my community would not use RateMds as a source; they do not have computers.

I am sure there is a segment of the population who would find it useful.

I appreciate your thread as I certainly learned something new.

gagal wrote: The article I

gagal wrote:

The article I wanted your opinion on discussed independent dental hygienist clinics as a viable business model.

Not surprisingly dentists find them not to be at least in 2008.

Because there are hundreds of dental hygiene clinics already open and new ones hitting the market, that, I am assuming, is a standing testimony to the fact that it is an economically viable business model. In Canada, I am not sure about the US, Dental Hygiene clinics apparently do not need funding by government nor charitable organisations.

A lot has changed since 2008, maybe not dentists opinions on the subject, but a lot has changed.
It hasn't stopped a few Dentists from opening their own Dental Hygiene Clinics, even while not practising in them.

Dental hygiene wrote: gagal

Dental hygiene wrote:
gagal wrote:

The article I wanted your opinion on discussed independent dental hygienist clinics as a viable business model.

Not surprisingly dentists find them not to be at least in 2008.

Because there are hundreds of dental hygiene clinics already open and new ones hitting the market,.........

That is a very good point, but you said, “You’re correct, Dental Hygienists practicing independent from Dentists is still not widely known.”

Feeling a bit clueless about the existence of independent clinics I asked around and others were also not aware, so I felt a little better.

The dentists in the article presented some compelling arguments against their profitability.

All of the above led me to believe that it may not be a booming industry.

I guess I was wrong. It seems to be happening a lot to me lately.

I am glad they are successful.

gagal wrote: Feeling a bit

gagal wrote:

Feeling a bit clueless about the existence of independent clinics

Stand in line, Gagal. Another wink. I didn't have a clue either. I did a bit of speed reading and discovered that
we have many clinics in Alberta, including a mobile unit. Apparently qualifying hygienists can
administer and prescribe some drugs.

"...What drugs will dental hygienist prescribers be able to prescribe?

Section 13(1) of the Dental Hygienists Profession Regulation, which came into force on October 31, 2006,
outlines the following restricted activities authorization:
d) to prescribe the following Schedule 1 drugs within the meaning of Schedule 7.1 to the Government
Organization Act for the purpose of treating oral health conditions, providing prophylaxis and treating emergencies:

(i) antibiotics;
(ii) antifungal agents;
(iii) anti-infective agents;
(iv) antiviral agents;
(v) bronchodilators;
(vi) epinephrine;
(vii) fluoride;*
(viii) pilocarpine;
(ix) topical corticosteroids;
* fluoride has been reclassified as a natural health product. Currently none of the oral care fluoride products require a prescription..."

At the very least, we've both learned something new, and that...is what it's all about! Smiling

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