Kelowna Pain Doctors ( physiatrists)

I am looking for people that have had treatment with either of these, Kelowna Dr's.
Dr Vallentyne & Dr Nowak they are both physiatrist (pain managment Dr's). I am looking for negative experiences only. If you up to discussing your treatment on either Dr. I would love to hear about it.Please PM me . Thanks Kybran

Still looking for more

Still looking for more people. Wanting to stop the abuse these Dr's are doing to there patients.

kybran wrote: Still

kybran wrote:

Still looking for more people. Wanting to stop the abuse these Dr's are doing to there patients.

Hi,

What happened between you and these doctors?

Chris.

kybran wrote: Still

kybran wrote:

Still looking for more people. Wanting to stop the abuse these Dr's are doing to there patients.

Are you a patient that had problems with these physicians, or are you an attorney looking for clients? Evil

Workers compensation boards

Workers compensation boards and Doctors can do as they see fit without any recourse to the injured worker. However in common law there is redress through Civil Court Lawsuit. Expect to see many challenges in 2008 as disabled injured workers are sick and tired of a system that is abusive towards the patient. My lawsuit is going to be for misfeasance, negligence, negligent duty of care/standard of care, intentional infliction of emotional distress, negligent infliction of emotional distress, breach of confidence (releasing private health information) I am researching all laws and won't go away quietly # 2. I will take an apology from a dr. being late or being abrupt. I will not take an apology from someone who does unnecessary surgery, lies, delays my treatment and forces me to live in pain and pay for his medical incompetence and greed.
Im not an attorney, just a patient that has run out of patience with a health care system that allows people to suffer. I am wanting to share & compare stories of our experiences. And see what we can do to stop this from happening to moe people. Its wrong what WCB and these Dr's are getting away with. Lets stop them together. We have to take back our health....

I'd like to know what

I'd like to know what happened between you and the docs. Also I sent you an e-mail with a question. Could you please respond today if you can? thanks,...sincerely, pothole

Hi, As a chronic pain

Hi,

As a chronic pain doctor, I can tell you that the worker's compensation board in Ontario can be VERY frustrating to work with; EVERY time you want to try a patient on a new medication they request a letter to be sent specifying why this patient requires this medication. This kind of bureaucratic harassment against the doctor does not help the patient's case, needless to say. This is one of many examples that makes working with the WCB very frustrating.

I can tell you that many doctors that I know in Ontario are not "keen" on the WCB! I find that I am frequently in an adversarial position with the patient and myself on one side, and the WCB on the other.

I will please ask you NOT TO QUOTE ME OR INCLUDE THIS STATEMENT IN ANY FORM in any lawsuit that you are compiling against the Worker's Compensation Board.

On a completely different topic, I note you have sacro-iliac joint pain that was completely eliminated with a needle to that area (relief for 1 hour) . Was this a "nerve block", i.e. local anesthetic with lidocaine or marcaine? If you experienced relief with this procedure, you may benefit from rhizolysis, a procedure that "burns" the nerve in the sacro-iliac area. You can follow up at a pain clinic to learn more about this potential treatment.

Chris.

Hi there all - A Newbie to

Hi there all - A Newbie to the forum.

Kybran, I myself haven't seen either of these Dr.s, However, I have a few friends that have and they have not been nice comments.

I wish you luck with this, and hope that you get an answer soon with your health.

Thanks Chris its nice to

Thanks Chris its nice to hear from a Pain Dr. I can totally agree with you on how frustrating it is to deal with WCB for some reason they think there god and above the law. However a DR should be able to stand their ground with WCB. They are a patient's only advocate for there health Because we all know WCB does not listen to the patient even though we are the ones suffering and feeling the pain. And if WCB is so hard to deal with why doesnt the MSP deal with that issue. Cause if a person is not covered under WCB it is MSP to pick up the tab.
Thanks for the info about a rhizolysis procedure. I have since had to go out of Kelowna to find another Dr beacuse the elite (boys club)here in kelowna will not go against another Dr. I am now in Salmon Arm and have a wonderful pain Dr there. He is sure my problem is in the sacroiliac joint as well as ligament damage. He has done multiple nerve blocks giving me anywhere from 2-4 hrs with no pain. The pain always comes back after that, I have a lot of nerve pain running down my leg and into my feet all the time 24hrs a day so I beleive he is doing a epidural the next appt. To see if that pain will go away. But thats all I know really at this point he has not talked about treatment just that he is sure thats where all the problems are. I have had this pain for 17 months now so iam so hopeful there will be an end to this one day.

I am scheduled to see Dr

I am scheduled to see Dr Nowak on October 5/09, I am interested to hear what I may be in for....any input would be appreciated.....

Iam sorry to say you are

Iam sorry to say you are misinformed if you are seeing a doctor about a Workers Compensation issue and he does something wrong he falls under the protection of the WCB act there's nothing you can do they are considered employers and are protected from tort (lawsuit)civil or otherwise like any other employer.

first of all are you in U.S.

first of all are you in U.S. or CANADA. I may offer some help but not knowing where you are from it would be hard.all I can say now is taking any legal action against a doc is very hard and very hard to prove. it could take several years just to go to court. first you must have ALL your medical records just to get started. plus if in U.S. each state is differant. also if over one year forget it to late to do anything.

I Live in Canada..

I Live in Canada..

I'M VERY SORRY FOR YOUR

I'M VERY SORRY FOR YOUR SITUATION, I TOO KNOW HOW CORRUPT WORKERS COMPENSATION IN CANADA IS;

THIS SYSTEM IS LITERALLY MEDICAL LEGAL INSURANCE FRAUD / RACKETEERING;

WORKERS COMPENSATION IS ALL ABOUT DELAY, DENY , DEFEND;

WHAT I MEAN IS THEY DELAY DIAGNOSING THE INJURY SO THEY CAN STARVE YOU BACK TO WORK UNDIAGNOSED;

WHEN YOU FINALLY GET DIAGNOSED WCB WILL CONVOLUTE THE MEDICAL EVIDENCE TO DENY YOU OPERATION OR RETRAINING;

THEY ALWAYS MAKE RIDICULOUS AND DOWN RIGHT SLANDEROUS COMMENTS IN YOUR CLAIM FILE TO MALIGN YOU
AND MAKE EVERYONE THINK YOU ARE A MALINGERING FAKER;

ONCE THEY GETTHE PROPER DIAGNOSE OF YOUR INJURY, THEY CONVENIENTLY STATE THAT THAT'S NOT THE REASON FOR YOUR PAIN?

IT MUST BE ALL IN YOUR HEAD, OR YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE GOING ON ? EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE NO PROOF OF CANCER
THEY WILL USE THIS DIAGNOSE OR GRAB AT ANY STRAW TO DENY YOU MEDICAL HELP, WAGE REPLACEMENT, OPERATION;

THESE WORKERS COMP BOARDS ARE A BUNCH OF CON-ARTISTS WHO DON'T GIVE A **** ABOUT ANYONE;

SENT ME BACK TO WORK AGAINST MY PHYSICIANS WISHES AND WARNINGS, KNOWINGLY THAT I WOULD SUFFER SEVERE INJURY;

I HAVE BEEN PUNTED AROUND THE SASKATCHEWAN MEDICAL SYSTEM FOR OVER 6 YRS NOW,
THEY USE PUPPY-MILL WCB DOCTORS TO DENY YOU HELP;

IF YOU WANT PROOF OF WCB FRAUD EMAIL ME @

Please email me and listen to

Please email me and listen to my story, someone needs to stop these doctors from crippling injured workers;

YEAH BUT is he protected from

YEAH BUT is he protected from TEXAS JUSTICE? Not friken likely....

Same thing here in

Same thing here in Saskatchewan, medical doctors using stereo-typical medical commentary to deny diagnosis / treatment;
email me if you want proof at;

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