Bioidentical Hormone Pellets

Are there any women who have bioidentical hormone pellets? I'm curious how you are doing on them. I have them and they drastically changed my life from existing to living. They are the best gift I've ever given myself.

Hi, NJW I've never heard of

Hi, NJW

I've never heard of this before. How has it changed your life?

I had a complete

I had a complete hysterectomy in 1987 when I was in my 30’s. I’m 54 now. I feel like I lost my whole 40’s to a non-existent sex drive. I managed my menopause symptoms with different estrogen pills, but no testosterone. Then came the estrogen scare several years ago. I tried to get off of the estrogen and couldn’t. The night sweats were the worse. So I went back on estrogen pills. Then in 2003, I read a newsletter from my gyn about the pellets. I felt like my name was after every symptom. There was a ray of hope! I talked to my dr about the pellets. She does thousands of women. I found out that a friend also had the pellets and was loving them. So I decided to get them. I get 2 estrogen pellets which are 25mg each, and 1 testosterone pellet of 75mgs. I will get these pellets as long as I am able. Hopefully till I die.

I have to say they changed my life. First of all the menopause symptoms went away. But the absolute best was the increase in libido. We were like kids on a honeymoon!

Here is some information about the pellets:

1. Hormone pellets are the best, most natural way to deliver hormones in both men and women. Implants, placed under the skin, consistently release small, physiologic doses of bio-identical hormones providing optimal therapy.

2. What are Pellets? Pellets are made up of either estradiol or testosterone. The hormones, estradiol or testosterone, are pressed or fused into very small solid cylinders. These pellets are larger than a grain of rice and smaller than a ‘Tic Tac’. In the United States, pellets are made by a compounding pharmacist and delivered in sterile glass vials.

3. Why pellets? Pellets deliver consistent, healthy levels of hormones for 4-6 months. They avoid the fluctuations, or ups and downs, of hormone levels seen with every other method of delivery. It is the fluctuation in hormones that causes many of the unwanted side effects and symptoms a patient experiences. Estrogen delivered by subcutaneous pellets, maintains the normal ratio of estradiol to estrone. This is important for optimal health and disease prevention. Pellets do not increase the risk of blood clots like conventional or synthetic hormone replacement therapy.

4. In studies, when compared to conventional hormone replacement therapy, pellets have been shown to be superior for relief of menopausal symptoms, maintenance of bone density, restoration of sleep patterns, improvement in sex drive, libido, sexual response and performance. Even patients who have failed other types of hormone therapy have a very high success rate with pellets. In addition, there is no other method of hormone delivery that is as convenient for the patient as pellets.

5. After pellets are inserted, patients may notice that they have more energy, sleep better and feel happier. Muscle mass and bone density will increase while fatty tissue decreases. Patients may notice increased strength, co-ordination and physical performance. They may see an improvement in skin tone and hair texture. Concentration and memory may improve as will overall physical and sexual health.

6. Pellets do not have the same risk of breast cancer as high doses of oral estrogens, like Premarin, that do not maintain the correct estrogen ratio or hormone metabolites. Nor, do they increase the risk of breast cancer like the synthetic, chemical progestins used in the Women’s Health Initiative Trial. In fact, data supports that balanced hormones are breast protective.

7. Some patients begin to ‘feel better’ within 24-48 hours while others may take a week or two to notice a difference.

8. Hormone therapy with pellets is not just used for menopause. Women at any age may experience hormone imbalance. Levels decline or fluctuate contributing to debilitating symptoms. Pellets are useful in severe PMS, post partum depression, menstrual or migraine headaches, and sleeping disorders. Pellets may also be used to treat hormone deficiencies caused by the birth control pill.

Thanks, NJW for all the

Thanks, NJW for all the info. Smiling

Sounds like it is certainly something to look into.

This is a good site and

This is a good site and there is a map that gives locations where you can get the pellets implanted.

http://www.sottopelletherapy.com/index.html

SottoPelle is just one brand

SottoPelle is just one brand of pellet. I do not have that brand. College is another compounding pharmacy that makes pellets.

When asking doctors about hormones, be sure to say pellets. That is the operative word.

There is a good Yahoo group of women who have all had pellets. If interested in pellets, come join and learn about them from women who have them. Go to Yahoo Groups and type in: HormonePellets

Check out these other websites with pellet info.

C:\Users\Nancy\Documents\Medical\Menopause\Dr_ Deborah Wilson eNews - June 2003.mht (scroll down to read about them)

http://hormonebalance.org/pellets_info.asp

I haven't heard of pellets

I haven't heard of pellets but do take bioidenticals in cream form that I rub onto my arms. Would not live without them Smiling

I'm glad it works for you.

I'm glad it works for you. What is the cream you use?

njw53 wrote: I'm glad it

njw53 wrote:

I'm glad it works for you. What is the cream you use?

I should know this off the top of my head...but don't.

I get the prescription filled at a compound pharmacy - and they know what it is...lol.

Honestly, I don't care if it's bird poop, it works!

So true, what I meant was

So true, what I meant was do you get estrogen or testosterone?

njw53 wrote: So true,

njw53 wrote:

So true, what I meant was do you get estrogen or testosterone?

Estrogen only. It's my understanding that when we (women) are young, we have a ratio of 20 to one, estrogen/progrestrone. However, as we age, that ratio becomes one-to-one. Just last week I had a hormone panel done and I'll soon get the results, so we'll see where to go from there. Whatever needs to be tweaked will be.

I don't believe that bioidentical hormones are the be all to end all; the panacea; the ethereal answer, but for me, they do work well.

Most MD's are against BHRT and Wyeth-Ayerst (the makers of Premarin & Prempro) want them banned. One doctor spoke out against them saying that in essence, a woman's body loses estrogen because that's the way we're made and there's no need to replace estrogen. I'd like to ask her if this is the case, why Viagra, Cialis, etc., are manufactured? Isn't it a similar premise?

Clinical trials are desperately needed and I believe one is currently being done in Texas. However, it's difficult, if not impossible, to double blind study BHRT.

Glad they're also working for you.

Check out dr.erica.com for more info.

Yes, well, we can't help

Yes, well, we can't help that there are stupid doctors out there. I love your comment about Viagra. I get estrogen and testosterone. I like the fact that once they're implanted, I don't have to think about it for 3-4 months.

I went to dr.erica.com and it was all about breast enhancement.

I'm also aware of Wyeth wanting them banned. Here is a link to a website where you can send a letter in support of bioidenticals. I did.
http://www.iacprx.org/site/PageServer?pagename=P2C2

https://secure2.convio.net/iacprx/site/Advocacy?pagename=homepage&page=UserAction&id=164&JServSessionIdr005=z04amwig74.app14b

njw53 wrote: I went to

njw53 wrote:

I went to dr.erica.com and it was all about breast enhancement.

This Dr. Erica:

http://www.drerika.com/

Breast enhancement?? Yes, I really can use that but I will go there in another life Smiling

ChronicPhilomath

ChronicPhilomath wrote:
njw53 wrote:

So true, what I meant was do you get estrogen or testosterone?

Estrogen only. It's my understanding that when we (women) are young, we have a ratio of 20 to one, estrogen/TESTOSTERONE. However, as we age, that ratio becomes one-to-one. Just last week I had a hormone panel done and I'll soon get the results, so we'll see where to go from there. Whatever needs to be tweaked will be.

I corrected my own post. The ratio is estrogen/TESTOSTERONE (not progesterone, sorry).

Now your link took me to the

Now your link took me to the right site! I could use some uplift too!!!

ChronicPhilomath

ChronicPhilomath wrote:

Most MD's are against BHRT and Wyeth-Ayerst (the makers of Premarin & Prempro) want them banned. One doctor spoke out against them saying that in essence, a woman's body loses estrogen because that's the way we're made and there's no need to replace estrogen. I'd like to ask her if this is the case, why Viagra, Cialis, etc., are manufactured? Isn't it a similar premise?

The proper analogy would be not to have men use testosterone for andropause, which many are now doing; we'll see in years whether the the outcome is the same as with HRT in women (more cancer and heart disease). Viagra, Cialis and Levitra do not work if there is insufficient testosterone in the body - even if you take a whole bottle of the stuff.

Twain

Twain wrote:
ChronicPhilomath wrote:

Most MD's are against BHRT and Wyeth-Ayerst (the makers of Premarin & Prempro) want them banned. One doctor spoke out against them saying that in essence, a woman's body loses estrogen because that's the way we're made and there's no need to replace estrogen. I'd like to ask her if this is the case, why Viagra, Cialis, etc., are manufactured? Isn't it a similar premise?

The proper analogy would be not to have men use testosterone for andropause, which many are now doing; we'll see in years whether the the outcome is the same as with HRT in women (more cancer and heart disease). Viagra, Cialis and Levitra do not work if there is insufficient testosterone in the body - even if you take a whole bottle of the stuff.

Well, I'm confused Puzzled
Testosterone isn't nascent, is it? Or are you saying that we now need the male equivalent of the "Women's Health Initiative" that in 2002 produced its findings that HRT was responsible for a higher incidence of MI's and breast cancer in women who ingested that poison?

More confusion: Statistically speaking, more men who take Viagra, etc., are over the age of 50, thus their testosterone is on a decline in which case they need the ingestible testosterone to make the drug efficacious?

Further confusion: If a man is taking testosterone, why does he also need Viagra? Isn't it feasible to just up the dosage of testosterone?

The side effects of Viagra are well documented (cardia problems; blindness), whereas, testosterone, to my knowledge, hasn't been known to cause these serious side effects.

ETA: My analogy was spoken from a "quality of life" perspective. The vast majority of menopausal women are greatly helped with estrogen. Men, it appears, are helped with Viagra (for a different reason), but both enhance quality of life.

ChronicPhilomath

ChronicPhilomath wrote:
Twain wrote:
ChronicPhilomath wrote:

Most MD's are against BHRT and Wyeth-Ayerst (the makers of Premarin & Prempro) want them banned. One doctor spoke out against them saying that in essence, a woman's body loses estrogen because that's the way we're made and there's no need to replace estrogen. I'd like to ask her if this is the case, why Viagra, Cialis, etc., are manufactured? Isn't it a similar premise?

The proper analogy would be not to have men use testosterone for andropause, which many are now doing; we'll see in years whether the the outcome is the same as with HRT in women (more cancer and heart disease). Viagra, Cialis and Levitra do not work if there is insufficient testosterone in the body - even if you take a whole bottle of the stuff.

Well, I'm confused Puzzled
Testosterone isn't nascent, is it? Or are you saying that we now need the male equivalent of the "Women's Health Initiative" that in 2002 produced its findings that HRT was responsible for a higher incidence of MI's and breast cancer in women who ingested that poison?

More confusion: Statistically speaking, more men who take Viagra, etc., are over the age of 50, thus their testosterone is on a decline in which case they need the ingestible testosterone to make the drug efficacious?

Further confusion: If a man is taking testosterone, why does he also need Viagra? Isn't it feasible to just up the dosage of testosterone?

The side effects of Viagra are well documented (cardia problems; blindness), whereas, testosterone, to my knowledge, hasn't been known to cause these serious side effects.

ETA: My analogy was spoken from a "quality of life" perspective. The vast majority of menopausal women are greatly helped with estrogen. Men, it appears, are helped with Viagra (for a different reason), but both enhance quality of life.

Philo, I not sure what you mean by "nascent" in this context. I understand it to mean "emerging".

To get all the answers clearly, a male version of the WHI would have to be run. I haven't heard of it being carried out now.

In his 70s or 80s a man usually has enough testosterone around, even though the level most likely is lower than when he was younger. The problem generally is a poor blood supply to the penis, which is what Viagra temporarily helps. Taking more testosterone will NOT increase the blood supply to the penis. Taking too much testosterone can lead to acne, aggressive and/or violent behaviour, liver problems, shrinkage of the testicles, ? heart disease, growth of a prostate cancer already there.

BTW, for a man to have an erection, he needs adequate testosterone AND sexual stimulation (a partner or fantasy). So, be mindful of the "Jay Leno effect" - lying in bed watching TV, popping a Viagra, and expecting someething to happen - it won't.

Twain

Twain wrote:
ChronicPhilomath wrote:
Twain wrote:
ChronicPhilomath wrote:

Most MD's are against BHRT and Wyeth-Ayerst (the makers of Premarin & Prempro) want them banned. One doctor spoke out against them saying that in essence, a woman's body loses estrogen because that's the way we're made and there's no need to replace estrogen. I'd like to ask her if this is the case, why Viagra, Cialis, etc., are manufactured? Isn't it a similar premise?

The proper analogy would be not to have men use testosterone for andropause, which many are now doing; we'll see in years whether the the outcome is the same as with HRT in women (more cancer and heart disease). Viagra, Cialis and Levitra do not work if there is insufficient testosterone in the body - even if you take a whole bottle of the stuff.

Well, I'm confused Puzzled
Testosterone isn't nascent, is it? Or are you saying that we now need the male equivalent of the "Women's Health Initiative" that in 2002 produced its findings that HRT was responsible for a higher incidence of MI's and breast cancer in women who ingested that poison?

More confusion: Statistically speaking, more men who take Viagra, etc., are over the age of 50, thus their testosterone is on a decline in which case they need the ingestible testosterone to make the drug efficacious?

Further confusion: If a man is taking testosterone, why does he also need Viagra? Isn't it feasible to just up the dosage of testosterone?

The side effects of Viagra are well documented (cardia problems; blindness), whereas, testosterone, to my knowledge, hasn't been known to cause these serious side effects.

ETA: My analogy was spoken from a "quality of life" perspective. The vast majority of menopausal women are greatly helped with estrogen. Men, it appears, are helped with Viagra (for a different reason), but both enhance quality of life.

Philo, I not sure what you mean by "nascent" in this context. I understand it to mean "emerging".

To get all the answers clearly, a male version of the WHI would have to be run. I haven't heard of it being carried out now.

In his 70s or 80s a man usually has enough testosterone around, even though the level most likely is lower than when he was younger. The problem generally is a poor blood supply to the penis, which is what Viagra temporarily helps. Taking more testosterone will NOT increase the blood supply to the penis. Taking too much testosterone can lead to acne, aggressive and/or violent behaviour, liver problems, shrinkage of the testicles, ? heart disease, growth of a prostate cancer already there.

BTW, for a man to have an erection, he needs adequate testosterone AND sexual stimulation (a partner or fantasy). So, be mindful of the "Jay Leno effect" - lying in bed watching TV, popping a Viagra, and expecting someething to happen - it won't.

Yes, nascent, as in just beginning; emerging.

Thank you Twain, for clarifying how the male body works - or doesn't work. We're all grateful. See ladies, you don't have to say you have a headache, just turn on Jay Leno and all is gone. Eye-wink

I had a hystorectomy at the

I had a hystorectomy at the age of 34 I am now 46. Where do I begin. I feel like my 30-40's have been spent feeling lousy. I have gained over 24 lbs. I had my ovaries left but obviously they do not work. What I hate the most is my mood swings, lack of labido and all that comes with it. I never went on HRT due to the cancer issues and now finally I believe I will get the relief I need with the sottopelle pellet implant. There is not a single review that is bad about them. More importantly it makes perfect sense for your body to take only what it needs. My kids think I am bi polar and I know it seems that way. It makes you hate yourself. I feel tired always and depression is like a snake in a wood pile you never know when its coming. I have taken oral for the last 5 years from a compounding pharmacy of bio identical and never felt they worked. I am soooo pist off that I have had 4 different doctors who are yes practicing alright but not on these issues. I have been told I need to learn to love myself now thats a revolation! touch myself ah yes now thats a new idea and that this is the best I will ever feel. This is all about MONEY and the pharmasutical companies who cannot patent and make big bucks off of natural. Dr.'s practice covering issues and not what causes them. I also think it is of course make dominated. Kind of funny these bio identicals are not covered unless you are having penile disfuction. Not sure I have spelt penile right it has been that long since I have been interested. Frankly I am pissed off that unless it revolves around the penis there is no cure. Remember ladies when they said the Pill didnt cause weight gain. Hmmm. Or when they said PMS is in our minds and referred us to Psychiatrist's. In my house PMS was called punish my spouse, because that is how I felt. So ladies do the homework and look at how long you want to feel bad. Life is valuable. Wish me luck My implant goes in and I will be back to share with all of you.

My memory is soooooooooo

My memory is soooooooooo bad. I read your post and then had to go back and read the whole thread.........with rapt interest, and low and behold, who posted the link to the sotto pellets? Me, heartthrob!!!!!! And only in March and I already forgot about it!!

fauxfini: Who implants your pellets? Your Gyn's office? Do you send off for them, or buy them from a compounding pharmacy?
Please do come back and post your result. I think I will be watching for your post??

pam

I'm not her, but I can

I'm not her, but I can answer too.

My gyn implants the pellets. It takes a gyn committed to pellets. And those who are committed, will have supplies of them in the office.

Pellets are not something most pharmacies carry. So getting a presecription for them doesn't really happen. It's just a short office visit to get it done.

Hi Pam, My implant has

Hi Pam,
My implant has been put in at at Sottopelle office in Glendale Arizona. It was done after they recieved my bloodwork results. It has been about 4 weeks now, infact yesterday I went for more bloodwork to see its comparison on Sept. 4th when I go back. When I saw my bloodwork the first time no wonder I felt cruddy. I am happy to say that I am sleeping much better, I have more energy and my mood swings have improved like you wouldnt believe. I am excited about going back as you have to sometimes have adjustments to get on level. For example, there can be lots of reason why your estrogent level jumps up. Is it the ovaries making too much to where your estrogen dominant or it it because your lacking or deficient in testosterone? In any case he put a pellet in my rump side, which was painless, the pellet had more testosterone than estragen because my estrogen level was 147 which is a toxic level. I will share with you girls after my next appt. on Sept 4 to see what the bloodwork reveals. I can tell you I feel so much better. Oh and the libido thing. Yikes, now that has improved!!!!!!! Before I could care less, now I feel like the person I use to. The only problem is my husband is going through this too and I am going to get him on board!!!!!! Oh and I would like to say that I have notice a change in my body appearance too. Not drastic but it is like anyone who knows what it is like to gain weight from the pill well having too much estrogen in your body can bulk you up. I have noticed my breasts have gone down and the fullness that was all around the upper half of me. I am already busty and I felt like I looked bulked up and i did. Also ever notice that after we have kids our arms bulk up too well they are going down too. I was also putting some weight on the tummy area like under the bra part which I never use too and now that is going down too. So cheers this makes me very excited and worth telling you all about.

Hi faux, and thank you for

Hi faux, and thank you for posting. And congratulations. Are they chemical hormones, or bioidentical? How did you find a clinic that participates? I have thought of calling a compounding pharmacy, thinking they must know who does this!!
Did you have hot flashes and night sweats, and if so have they stopped?

Good luck getting hubby revved up to the new you!!

pam

hi Faux! I live in

hi Faux! I live in Scottsdale too and my gyn is just down the street.

Pam,
Sottopelle and my pellets are bioidentical.

I just more pellets on the 19th and I haven't had to get estrogen since last December, and testosterone since April. I've had the pellets for 4 years.

If anyone is interested, I a list of doctors all over the country that do pellets. And there is a great doctor in NC that's been doing them for 31 years.

njw53 wrote: hi Faux! I

njw53 wrote:

hi Faux! I live in Scottsdale too and my gyn is just down the street.

Pam,
Sottopelle and my pellets are bioidentical.

I just more pellets on the 19th and I haven't had to get estrogen since last December, and testosterone since April. I've had the pellets for 4 years.

If anyone is interested, I a list of doctors all over the country that do pellets. And there is a great doctor in NC that's been doing them for 31 years.

NJW
Is it an online list that you can post? I would love to see it. Glad to hear it's working well for you.

pam

It's in excel. So I don't

It's in excel. So I don't think so.

Nancy

njw53 wrote: It's in

njw53 wrote:

It's in excel. So I don't think so.

Nancy

Ok Nancy, so how can I find the list?

pam

Pam, I send you a pm with my

Pam, I send you a pm with my email address. Send me an email and I'll email it to you. Nancy

I wish that I had known

I wish that I had known about this 4 years ago. Yes Pam they are bio pellets that's the great thing. My night sweats are getting better and better, no more headaches and the water weight is getting better too. Sottopelle is a brand of Pellets these pellets which started in Europe I believe have been around for 60 years. Isn't that sad we are made to suffer like this. Oh, and I really must get the hubby going on this. I see the change in him too. I have been with him since 21 so I really can tell. The problem is everyone thinks it is because your getting older. Sure we slow down but we do not need to feel crappy too! I do physical work for a living and I was losing so much energy during the day I feel tons better. I really want ladies to know about this so they will feel better too. Believe me if men complained more about how their penis was effecting how they feel they would have a cure for that instantly. I come from an age when I remember they told us PMS is all in our mind and no such thing. Welp, in my house PMS should have been called PUNISH MY SPOUSE!!!!!!

Cheers
Fauxfini

If all doctors had to spend

If all doctors had to spend just one day in hormonal hell with no sex drive, we'd see changes immediately!

NJW: I was just reading this

NJW:

I was just reading this and wondered if Estriol is an ingredient in Bioidentical Hormone Pellets. I would think it would have to be. How long do they last and how often do you have to have them re-implanted? Cause the estriol ingredient may be unavailable:

http://ga4.org/campaign/estriol_IND

Pellets are made of

Pellets are made of estradiol, not estriol. So I believe we are ok. Here is another link to protecting our bioidentical hormones. I have participated in letters to congress and senators.

http://www.iacprx.org/site/PageServer?pagename=P2C2

And here is another article that says:
Congressional Resolutions Deem FDA's Policy on Estriol "Not in the Public Interest"

https://secure2.convio.net/iacprx/site/Advocacy?page=SplashPage&pagename=homepage&id=179&JServSessionIdr011=bpggjv0ht1.app1a

For the first 3 years, I got my pellets every 12 weeks. This time I went from dec to August for estrogen and April to August for testosterone. The longer you have them, the less often you need them.

Nancy

Hi Pam, We have 3

Hi Pam,
We have 3 different kinds of estrogen in our body. I believe 1 is more beneficial than another. It is Estradiol that is most beneficial and when my implant was put in I was given a boost of testosterone and a small bit of estradiol. We are trying to figure out why my estrogen was so so high. Being estrogen dominant is very bad for your health and very symptomatic. It may have been caused by taking oral bio's which are often so high in mg that this can happen. We will see what the pellets have done to me on sept 4th when I go in. I am excited about that and will let you girls know.

cheers
fauxfini

Very good Faux. fauxfini

Very good Faux.

fauxfini wrote:

It may have been caused by taking oral bio's which are often so high in mg that this can happen.

What is mg? Milligrams of something?

I surely didn't know we

I surely didn't know we needed estrogen. I was taking premarin,the doc switched me to estratest (by my request) and then I just stopped taking it,I was getting awful headaches,and I think it was the drug that was causing them. Now I'm just fine,without taking anything. The hot flashes can be a killer,but that's exactly what they are flashes. They don't last long. I just let them pass. Oh and mood swings too,sometimes. When I go into those moods,and modes I prefer to be alone.P.S. My doc said I didn't need anything if I can handle it.

Well, maybe the night sweats

Well, maybe the night sweats don't bother some women, but for me, I have awakened during the night and actually had to change my nightgown, turn down the A/C, turn up the fan (which is always on and aimed at me), and change my pillow case. I have awakened screeching to my poor husband, "MY BLOOD IS BOILING".
Now, when I get a little restless during the night and wake him up he says "what's wrong honey, is your blood boiling?" Ha Ha Ha

I am in misery............mostly at night. Clockwork. Every 90 minutes......throw the covers off, crawl around trying to find the coolest place on the sheet, turn my pillow over......
finally fall back asleep only to wake up 10 minutes later freezing, and pull the cover back over me and fall back asleep only to wake up 90 minutes later and start all over again. All night, every night.

I'm going to investigate those pellets before I die from lack of sleep.

Heartthrob...boy, I have

Heartthrob...boy, I have been there. I actually kept a spreadsheet of my hot flashes... 18 in one day, each lasting about 15 minutes. It was brutal.

Between that and no sex drive, I made the decision I will NOT suffer. Thanks god for pellets.

If you need help finding a pellet doc, let me know.
njw

Pam, I have been going

Pam, I have been going through it since I had a hyst.in 2000. Maybe it's tapering off now,but I surely do remember those days,and I surely do not miss them. I can't see putting something in my body,if I can cope without it. I surely do wish all the ladies the very best. Smiling

So sorry about the night

So sorry about the night sweats gals. I know they are aweful. Pam you mentioned that sometimes they are so bad you need to change. I have done the same. I have had to change my pillow case many many times. I am glad the lady stopped take premarin. Many people do not know what it really comes from. Pre is for premenompausal, mar-short for MARE like in horse and in= is for the horse urin. There is no way this is close to what our bodies made in nature. For those who mentioned not putting anything in here is food for thought. Notice how women approach 50's their body shape changes, hair texture, skin texture, spots, etc. I believe that as our body produces less or our hormones which have kept us young and for some of us none at all it speeds up the aging quite a bit. I want to feel as young as I can with out the risk of cancer. I have found or heard of no one who has gotten cancer from bio's. Also, without these hormones other diseases can happen, it effects our memory, moods, skin, looks, metablolism and thyroid. I really wonder how many women get their thyroid taken out when it could have been possibly caused from a hormone imbalance. When I had my hysto it was because I was loaded with fibroid tumors. Hormone imbalances can cause that and getting them in order can even shrink those tumors. Dr's are practicing on US. They also use pills for the symptoms and not what is causing them. How many of you have been asked to take anti-depressants for these symptoms. My point exactly. Even my husband for lack of libido they tried to medicate him too. Cialis made him sick, heart race and quite frankly didn't do squirt! I felt aweful for him and he is next on the list to get his hormones checked too. We are looking forward to it. For those who wish to take nothing as least take things that might help like, calcium, flaxseed, and soy and watch the caffeine.

Cheers
Fauxfini

Oh my

Oh my Cool Laughing out loud

That is so great! I have

That is so great! I have been searching for some time for an alternative to taking Premarin for menopause. My doctor told me that the only available treatment for menopause was Premarin. I would like to try these pellets. Have you read Suzanne Somers new book Breakthrough: Eight steps To wellness? I highly recommend this book. In this book she discusses with doctors in the field the role of hormones in our body and what happens when those hormones get out of whack.Suzanne is a big proponent of bio-identical hormones and she looks fabulous! I think this treatment has been available to menopausal women in the U.S. for some time. If we put women side by side those on biodentical hormones and those without the hormones I think the difference would be very apparent not only with the way these women look but the real difference or the more important difference would be how they feel and the quality of life that they enjoy. I would be excited to find a doctor interested in women's wellness and well being such as the one you have found.

Shirley, I read the book and

Shirley, I read the book and it was very good. There is also a free assessment at:

http://www.womentowomen.com/bioidentical-hrt/bioidenticalhormones.aspx

and various other sites. All done by mail and pretty expensive for my wallet. I buy an all natural product from Vitacost:

http://www.vitacost.com/

It is inexpensive (all natural from yams) and has helped me a lot.

Pam

Hi girls, Faux here,

Hi girls,
Faux here, yesterday I went for my second implant, this time they added a little estrogen. The first implant was primarily testosterone because we wanted to have me off the oral hormones to see if my ovaries where still producing. Well the rude headaches came back, so this time they added the estrogen plust test. When I first started this my prelim lab work had my test. level at 26 that is not just low it is difficient. So after the first pellet I went and have blood work again before this implant yesterday and now the level is at 106, much better. So this implant we used 10% less test. because you build on the previous implant and do not need as much you also use more up with your first implant. I am very excited about all this. Anyone can read on the net and see there is only positive reviews about implants. What pisses me off is that this has been around so long. I have suffered for years. Years of ZIP libido and all. Oh and my thyroid was perfect. Good luck ladies and take care of yourselves and check this out or help someone else who is going through this stuff.

Cheers
fauxfini

Hi..I am wondering if you

Hi..I am wondering if you still come to this forum ...I am new here and would like to ask some questions re pellets...truly appreciate any info of how you felt in the first few weeks...did you feel good straight away..just a few questions as feeling anxious after 9 days after insertion

many thanks
Donnalee

My stepmother swears by

My stepmother swears by them.

It took me about 3-4 days to

It took me about 3-4 days to feel the effects which were incredible. BUT I think I am one that felt it pretty quick. I know quite a few women where it took 2-4 weeks to feel it. There are a lot of variables. Did you have a hysterectomy? Ovarian failure? Natural menopause? What was your dosage?

LOL I know of one woman that didn't feel anything for weeks, then all of a sudden in Mass one Sunday she felt it BIG! She whispered to her husband that they needed to leave mass NOW!!! She said they almost didn't make it home!

I don't think 9 days is very long. Don't feel anxious...relax...it will happen. If not, your dosage may need tweaking.

Donnalee, I just sent you a

Donnalee,

I just sent you a private message.

Let Food Be Thy Medicine, &

Let Food Be Thy Medicine, & Let Thy Medicine Be Food...Hippocrates!

I'm thinking about pellets myself but have read some stories about the dosage being wrong and the patient having to wait until the next implant date 2-3 months to have it changed! That does not sit well with me, as well as the fact that it has to be implanted underneath the skin. I need hormones and from what I've discovered, those who provide pellets don't have the huge waiting times as other physicians....at least in my city...

Happy they are working for you guys but adjusting the dosage for some people takes time...and having to wait so long between implants would make it difficult...and those were the complaints, as well as other side effects people were having from too much testosterone... Dr. Vliet uses low dosages of testosterone .05-2.00 but from what I understand these doctors use much more testosterone than that!

Hormone levels should be

Hormone levels should be saliva tested, and over 24 hours. Each prescription ought to be individually designed for bioidentical replacements. I understand estrogen, estradiol, progesterone and "female" testosterone are all necessary in balance for the individual to be as effective as possible. I also understand that thyroid is critical here too, and that it should be tested both for T4 and T5 levels. Balanced as well. Problem I have had is finding a doc that "gets it" No training in this area for the most part.
I understand also that HRT is pretty much misunderstood in the majority of the medical community. Most docs don't know the difference between synthetics and bioidenticals. Ignorance is rampant. No time to read. The tests on premarin from what I read do not apply to bioidenticals. If you take premmerin (excuse my spelling) it creates a tough liver enzyme that is not easy to get rid of, other estrogens then become expelled from overprocessing, and not much is gained. Expensive urine. It would be nice if the Gov. would allow a lot of studies to be done well before throwing the whole thing away. It would be even better if the docs would get some education in this area from countries and other MD's who know the score.

I just read your post and

I just read your post and realize it is several years old. I am just now looking into bio identicals and pellets and this forum came up in a Google search.

I was wondering if you still have the list of doctors and, specifically, the name of the doctor in North Carolina - I live in NC.

Thank you so much. Sorry to bother you. I appreciate your taking the time to respond. Smiling

We're in the same boat! I

We're in the same boat! I also live in NC and also found this through a Google search! Have you found a doctor yet? I am also looking for one that does the pellets. Nothing else is helping me. Tried patch and gel with no rise in estrogen levels at all. Just started oral, but I really don't want to go that route due to liver issues.

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